Guild Wars 2 #HG | Secrets of the Obscure

#1385 Como funcionan las ultimas páginas que has puesto? Me gustaría de una vez poder enterarme de como pillar oro decentemente en un juego que no sea haciendo mazz y ya XD

Buenas

merece la pena el server español o está mu mal organizado para WvW?.
Ahora ando de f2p pero me gustaría andar en un server donde haya clanes que no sean muy zerg y sean algo decentes por si en un futuro tengo opción y no tener que pensar en migrar.

Qué clases son las más demandadas para pve/pvp a nivel de party?

#1389 Vale, gracias por la explicación

#1387 Eso es lo que hacía yo cuando jugaba con el guerrero, pero es por probar algo diferente

Para el PVE / RAID buscando encontre esto en varios sitios, la opinion sobre las clases mas demandadas y utiles, la facilidad que tendras para buscar grupo y para hacer buen dps o sobrevivir.

Best classes to start with

• Warrior – Easy to play at a competent level. 1-2 in every group. Low personal DPS so even if you play poorly you won’t ruin your team.

• Revenant – Easy to play at a competent level. 1 in most groups. Low personal DPS so even if you play poorly you won’t ruin your team.

• Guardian – A little harder than Warrior and rev since you have more responsibilities with things like F1 pulls and reflect, but rotation is extremely easy and you could do most fights with only a hammer. Many groups bring 1 to most fights, and using 2 isn’t awful in a couple fights.

• Note that all three of these and elementalist can share the same trinkets. Rev and guardian (and sometimes warrior) can share the same ascended armor. I know multiple players that started raiding on a single ascended heavy armor set.

Also good but not quite as good

• Necromancer – Super easy rotation, easy to stay alive, few additional responsibilities. Complete crap in some fights (vg, gors) but god tier in others (sab, all of salvation pass, sotf fight 1). Would be in the above category but the standard gearset is vipers/sinister (including trinkets), which you can’t have if you haven’t raided before (though I guess you could fork out a kittenload of gold for exotic vipers trinkets and replace them later, but that seems wasteful).

• Elementalist – In high demand. Relied upon for high DPS but very squishy, so poor ele play can hurt the squad’s DPS significantly. Requires you to learn two completely separate DPS rotations (and the staff rotation is harder than most people think) Often has extra responsibilities in fights (gors orbs, sab cannons, etc). Still decent to pick up first because they are in such high demand, and hey no one knows if you suck at the DPS rotation =P (but really you need to practice it because ele is brought for high DPS and if you aren’t bringing that then you are failing your squad).

Wouldn’t recommend but maybe if you like the class

• Engineer – difficult rotation, often has extra responsibilities. Rarely used outside of vale guardian and sotf fight 1 (whatever it is called, and obviously there is limited experience for this since it just came out, but engi blinds and aoe seem pretty solid here). Meta build is all vipers and sinister which can be a pain to get. People get angry when you try to play power scrapper because it’s fun but deep down you know it isn’t very good.

• Druid – Not horribly hard to play, but it is difficult to play it really well, and if you are struggling to learn druid as you learn the mechanics then you will progress very slowly as your team dies because you didn’t manage your heals/astral/weapon swap properly. Also requires many different gearsets which are not shareable. You will also have to tank some fights. 1-2 in all groups.

Worst

• Chronomancer – This is the hardest class to play in raids. Playing well requires you to know the fights and predict where your team will go. You also need to have fast hands to save your idiot team with distortion. All of your damage mitigation is evades/invulns and your heal is part of your quickness rotation, so if you don’t know the fight you will die easily. Gear is extremely expensive compared to other classes and cannot be shared with anyone. Oh, and you have to tank sometimes. However, good chronomancers are rare and in high demand.

• Thief – Fairly easy to play, but has no utility and less DPS than ele so no one wants a thief. Sorry, thief.

• Elementalist – Tempest required. Highest dps in the game, so many groups run multiple. However due to the low health pool and armor it can be hard for people new to raids.

• Mesmer – Chrono required. Most pug groups run exactly 1, and it’s usually the tank. It’s very important to know the fights as tank, so I don’t recommend this as your first raid class.

• Necromancer – Reaper required? Pug groups usually accept up to 2 reapers. I don’t know this very well, but it is very useful on VG and Gors at least. A bit easier to play because of the large health pool. Good option, but you will sometimes be put on more difficult roles (VG – green circles; Gors – spirits).

• Engineer – Scrapper not required. I usually only see this on VG. I wouldn’t recommend since you’ll want something else on other bosses and it can be hard to do the skill rotation while paying attention to mechanics.

• Ranger – Druid required. Most groups run exactly 1. You would be healer, so you would be playing one of the most important roles. I don’t recommend this for starting out because of that.

• Thief – Daredevil required. Not super useful. It has good damage, but doesn’t provide much utility. I don’t recommend.

• Warrior – Berserker required. Most groups run 1, sometimes 2. You usually don’t have to do particularly difficult tasks, so this can be good for someone new to raids, but this slot is frequently already filled in groups.

• Guardian – Dragonhunter required. Similar to daredevil in that it isn’t necessary in a raid.

• Revenant – Herald required. Many groups run with 1 or 2 (I more frequently see 2 revs than 2 warriors). You don’t need to do particularly difficult tasks and provide a lot of utility with very easy rotations. I recommend this.

A mi me ha desanimado un poco :\, me gusta como main el chronomancer, pero dicen que es complejo de usar y que bastante peso de la raid recae sobre ti, al no existir recount si un DPS no rinde igual no te enteras, pero si no usas distorsion correctamente te culparan.

Ademas de en algunos bosses ser el main tank, por lo que requiere mas conocimientos y suelen llevar 1 como mucho.. lo que si ya hay otro pasan de ti.

Luego el druida parecido, solo llevan 1 y tienes el peso de curar a la raid.

El ingeniero que solo se usa principalmente en un boss y tiene la rotacion mas complicada del juego

Luego las clases mas aburridas para mi, como staff ele, warrior son las que pueden ir 2 en raid y demas tienen la rotacion mas sencilla con menos margen de error.

Yo ire por el camino dificil del chrono ,druid, ingeniero, porque prefiero equivocarme con algo que me gusta a jugar algo sencillo como el warrior, luego tambien en general dicen que el guardian y el ladron son superados tanto en support como dps y solo se llevan si no hay otra cosa.

#1393 Yo creo que como thief o guardian no es que no puedas raidear, pero por lo visto para ir de "pugs" ambos son la ultima opcion xD.

http://www.qtfy.enjin.com/dps

Imagino que en guild raidearas sin problemas, pero seguramente sera mas dificil encontrar una guild siendo thief y guardian que ele por ejemplo.

Yo estoy igual, me tiene que gustar en spvp - pve y wvsw y los que cumplen eso o se lleva 1 o tienen todo el peso de la raid o rotacion compleja, como ingeniero, chrono, druid..

edit: en fractales parece que el guardian si se usa.

#1392 ¿De qué pagina has sacado eso? Tengo curiosidad. Por lo que leí del Necro me pareció todo menos sencillo de usar, la verdad.
Me desanima un poco; mi "main" por así decirlo es una guardiana y justo me hice un ladrón para variar, y como soy f2p hasta nuevo aviso quiero sacarle el jugo al par de personajes que puedo tener.

#1396 de aqui https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/game/dungeons/Best-class-build-for-PUG-raid

El necro no tiene rotacion muy complicada y ademas tiene mas supervivencia que elemental parece, lo que creo que te haria falta la exp para tener el reaper.

#1398 Gracias, le echaré un ojo. Yo para builds me guío por MetaBattle, creo que es la única página más o menos actualizada con ese tipo de contenido, de ahí lo que comento de la rotación del necro.

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