HoN: Heroes of Newerth

MrPaytoN

En eso estoy contigo , pero claro , piensa que la parte que estás viendo es como empieza todo el mundo , el publiqueo.

Supongo que una clanwar será bastante diferente y ahí sí podrás poner en juego estrategias y otras movidas.

guito

Por supuesto. Lo suyo es juntarse con gente para ir ganando más, si no es muy difícil.

Zendel

#3900 Creeme, si me ha costado la vida pillar 1600 psr (jugando en publicos ofc) 1750+ queda fuera de todas mis espectativas.

Llevas muchas razon en lo que dices, lo ideal es jugar con amigos/clan que sepan jugar bien, pero como bien se, eso no siempre es posible. Por lo tanto, en mi opinion, el juego carece, o va carecer, de una gran cantidad de jugadores, que somos los casuals (en mi caso menos casual), debido a la continua frustracion de jugar en publicos, y solamente va a tener futuro para clanes organizados o amigos que juegen bastante a la semana.

Sincerandome, creo que cuando salga al mercado, no lo comprare. No porque sea malo, todo lo contrario, el juego es una joyita, pero en mi opinion, no entro dentro del sector al que esta orientado este juego.

danao

yo estoy rondando los 1700 y he llegado a 1720 con guiris xD

por cierto, la moon queen roba vida en su primer golpe :/

Kaos

Me aconsejáis set para deadwood? :)

Chefaso

Hola buenas soy nuevo en el foro pero como he visto que teneis un hilo tan laaaargo de Hon me he registrado xD.

Bueno voy al grano, la razon de que me haya registrado es porque estoy buscando gente para jugar a esto pero con un poco de seriedad, para subir rating y quien sabe si jugar torneos o algo xD

Bueno el caso es que al que le interese que me agregue en HoN, mi nick es Chefaso (16xx psr y no juego EM)

Foxtreme

#3904 Diferencia entre 1700 em o normal :D

Hasta 1650 te puedes encontrar de todo, normalmente las partidas empiezan a ser decentes a partir de 1500-1550.

1700+ en normal la gente empieza a ser muy buena, denegando y farmeando TODO, control de runas, line-ups balanceados, ademas de moverse, gankear, pushear, etc muy bien. Sin olvidar el control del mapa con wards, stacking de creeps, etc (ya muy comun a partir de 1750-1800).

Easy mode me parece una basura, puedes ganar y conseguir PSR, pero no por ello significa que seas mejor. Yo con PSR 1600-1650 juego en normal y me superan a menudo, en EM es pillar un semicarry y acabar 15-3, o perdiendo si en mi equipo se juntan 2 o 3 feeders que pillan heroes de early.

Concluyendo: el PSR es significativo hasta cierto punto. Si quieres mejorar jugando, busca colegas de nivel similar y olvídate de EM. También, juega acorde a tu PSR. Si por ejemplo tienes 1500, por mucho que te joda no te van a dejar entrar en partidas de 1600 o más.

danao

#3907 si si em xD, si tengo 1700 pero te doy toda la razon xD para nada soy bueno ... juego una no em y hasta luego ... y para denegar hacer last hit sin una hachet me cuesta mucho

DevonxD

Acabo de actualizar a 1.63 y al abrirlo me da error (crash error) No se abre directamente, que cojones? xD

me auto edito joder xD: Borrar todos los addons y ya rula

N

yo estoy estancao en 1450. creo que juego bien hago denied en todos los bichos no feedeo no voy a lo loco por ahi pero siempre me toca algun retard en el equipo y no logro subir, algun consejo?

p0MeL0

yo he llegao a 1600+ y empece a perder partidas y ahora estoy rondando los 1400 , es una putada pero siempre toka algun/os guiri en mi ekipo ke no tiene ni idea (si , suelo jugar easy mode xD) y llevo una racha de mierda. Lo suyo es jugar con colegas y olvidarse del psr (ke esto es una beta no nos olvidemos y seguramente habra reset de stats y psr antes de ke salga el juego a la venta) , asi ke no os rayeis con el psr porke sino el juego dejara de cumplir la funcion mas importante ke tiene : divertir.
Respecto al ultimo parche yo actualice el juego SIN los addons instalados y me fue perfecto , luego se los he instalado otra vez y de momento no me ha dado ningun problema (tengo ke jugar alguna partida mas pero hasta el momento todo perfecto).

DevonxD

han puesto 1.64, que es esto? xD

Shintaa

Nueva actualización!! que habran canviado?? xDD por cierto alguien sabe cuando saldra el juego full?? a ver si hay fechas ya, es que estoy planteandomelo pillarlo ya, q total son 22€...

B

copy-paste basto:

[spoiler]Version 0.1.64

  • Fixed the crash that happened when you have a mod installed
  • Fixed the Hellbourne Meatball building so it cannot be attacked by the Hellbourne

Version 0.1.63

General

  • REPLAYS!

  • Due to a technical hurdle(and us getting a new giant FTP to store these things), replays will not be able to be downloaded from past versions. All replays from this version forward will always work (backwards compatible!) and you can download any of them through the Match Stats panel when online.

  • "It's like a time machine, you can only go back to when it was first created, no further."

  • Added ramp models to show where the ramps are more clearly on Caldavar

  • Added ingame loading tips

  • Added a delay between hero voice responses for move, attack and select sounds. (default 3 seconds)

  • Volume tweaks on a lot of heroes and abilities

  • Endless sound tweaks to heroes and impacts

  • New music track

  • Bajillidan tooltip fixes

  • Fixed Ranged Super Creep health

  • Added a lot (like 12-15) new LODs for lower end systems

  • /gameinfo now returns "Other Options: None" if there are none, previously it just showed "Other Options:"

  • Changed the creep gold for supercreeps to 1/2 the gold of normal creeps

  • Added a team message when a walking or flying courier is purchased by a team member

  • Added a team message indicating when a team member buys back

  • Added a new customized Legion/Hellbourne message and alert ping indicating when a melee/ranged barracks is destroyed

  • Added a fence in the forest to stop ancient creep pulling on the Hellbourne side

  • Player disconnects and player timeouts are now differentiated to the server

  • Tweaked Purge Creep AI so it doesn't purge creeps anymore, just heroes that are close to it

  • War Beast's Wolves, Tempest's Elementals, and Puzzlebox Minions are now Summoned units and will be hurt by Purge effects

  • Fixed the tooltip for locking someone because it said "star" instead of "icon"

  • Fixed an issue with the Health/Manabar tooltip in the options window

  • Added a new Hellbourne building to the base

  • Fixed the Kongor exploit spot because of a prop

  • French stringtables updated (Thanks to Magissia)

  • Fixed a significant exploit with map fog

  • Kongor now gets the ability to run through buildings, trees, and cliffs to return home.

  • This fixes many many issues with him getting stuck in weird places.

  • Kongor can no longer attack towers

  • Added a new jukespot in the Hellbourne jungle

  • Fixed the Antlore Healers from acting insane

  • Added occlude to the following. This stops the effects from playing in fog:

  • Andromeda's Void Rip

  • Behemoth's Heavyweight and Enrage

  • Chronos' Time Leap

  • Deadwood's Rotten Grasp and Tree Throw

  • Defiler's Silence

  • Demented Shaman's Storm Cloud

  • Devourer's Hook

  • Forsaken Archer's Volley

  • Glacius' Tundra Blase and Downpour

  • Hellbringer's Summon Malphas

  • Magmus' Lava Surge and Volcanic Touch and Eruption

  • Nymphora's Pod

  • Pestilence's Impale

  • Plague Rider's Plague Carrier

  • Torturer's Chain Reaction

  • Valkyrie's Leap

  • Vindicator's Sage's Lore

  • Voodoo's Cursed Ground

  • War Beast's Metamorphisis

  • Portal Key

  • Kongor death effect

  • Art tweaks:

  • Accursed's attack, cast effects, and cast impacts

  • Armadon's knockdown redone

  • Chronos' attacks cleaned up

  • Corrupted Disciple's new death and texture enhancements

  • Dark Lady's animations redone

  • Deadwood's ultimate effects sharpened

  • Demented Shaman's Entangle art

  • Forsaken Archer's run animation and textures on her mount

  • Jeraziah's ultimate is toned down

  • Madman's attacks cleaned up

  • Nymphora's run, idle and portrait fixes

  • Ophelia's run redone and cast animations

  • Pandamonium's new death

  • Predator gets an updated model

  • Rampage's run/charge difference cleaned up

  • Scout's electric eye and ultimate effects cleaned up

  • Slither's bored animation and ultimate clarity

  • Tempest's taunt redone

  • Thunderbringer's attack animation

  • Vindicator's death cleaned up and attacks smoothed

  • Warbeast's walk animation

  • Added a new game option to the interface panel that allows players to toggle displaying timestamps in game chat

  • When in the game lobby or hero select screens, pressing shift while entering chat now updates the chat type button to display the opposite chat mode the message will be sent to

  • Added a "No Leavers" icon to the game lobby to indicate if a game is "No Leavers" or not

  • Updated /gameinfo to show this information as well

  • Fixed an issue where players were shown a "unable to join due to leave % being too high" and unable to reconnect to games they were previously disconnected from

  • /dnd now blocks incoming messages sent from buddies using the "/buddy message" command

  • /afk and /dnd status is now automatically removed and set to /available when sending a /whisper

  • When switching between /afk and /dnd as long as a message is specified it will now switch or update your status accordingly, instead of removing your status and toggling to /available

  • /roll # now defaults to a roll between 1 and #

  • Fixed a bug where the percentage of leaves in the game lobby didn't match the percentage of leaves in the view stats interface

  • Fixed a crash caused by using the /matchup (/ma) command when in the hero select screen. /matchup is now only available for use during pre-match, active and end game phases

  • Added a /ping command players can use in game to show their current ping

  • Added a "Disconnect" button to the loading screen for cases when a player wishes to exit out before they have finished loading

  • Updated match stats info screen to show the colors of the players

  • Updated match replays web page to display correct icons for auto balanced game option and banning draft mode

  • Added new color in chat support for each of the player colors:

  • Blue !b

  • Teal !t

  • Purple !p

  • Yellow !y

  • Orange !o

  • Pink !i

  • Gray !v

  • LightBlue !l

  • DarkGreen !g

  • Brown !n

  • Orange(Different Orange) o

  • Brown(Different Brown) n

  • Purple(Different Purple) p

  • Teal(Different Teal) t

  • Spectator fixes:

  • Creep kill popup

  • Fixes for popup message and pings

  • Fix typo in spectator interface

  • Fix channel and mana upkeep on info selection tooltips

  • Camera centering and locking for spectators works using both info and control binds (C and V)

  • Tab cycles heroes in spectator mode

  • Fix double and triple ability buttons on the spectator interface

  • Various other tweaks

  • Hooked up z key chat history support

  • Removed Christmas effects (Except the lights on the Legion tree. Because some people keep those up for a while. You know people like that I'm sure...)

For modders:

  • Added new UI_CMD(GetColorFromPosition) that returns the appropriate color from a given client/player position.
  • Added a new CMD LocalChat that can be used to display chat messages in game (on the local client only).
  • This will be useful for mods that print out information to the screen without having to going through an interface and for those that don't want to send information to the screen with TeamChat or AllChat (rune spawn or player spawn reminders to name a few)

Items (17)

Barbed Armor

  • Cooldown increased to 20 seconds (from 15)
  • Damage returned lowered to 80% (from 100%)

Courier (Flying)

  • Bounty increased to 300

Firebrand

  • Rebalanced and takes Quickblade and Bolstering Armband
  • 6 Str
  • 15 Agi
  • 10% Movespeed
  • 15 Attackspeed
  • 950 Recipe
  • 2400 Total

Frostburn

  • Stats rebalance
  • 21 Str
  • 21 Agi
  • 10 Damage
  • 14% Movespeed
  • 25 Attackspeed
  • Slow changed to 15%, down from 20% (slow now lasts 2.5 seconds, down from 3)

Frostwolf

  • Same components but 200 recipe cost, 5900 total
  • The slow lasts 3 seconds and is applied on both single target spellcast and attack

Harkons Blade

  • Manacost per attack reduced to 50 from 100
  • Recipe cost lowered from 725 to 500

Helm of the Black Legion

  • Block value when on a ranged hero reduced to 20
  • Brings this item in line with the other two deflection items

Icebrand

  • Rebalance and takes Mighty Blade and Fleetfeet
  • 15 Str
  • 6 Agi
  • 10 Damage
  • Frost (15%, 1.5 second duration, down from 3)
  • 950 Recipe
  • 2400 Total

Geometers Bane

  • -5 int
  • Recipe cost lowered by 100

Mana Battery

  • Health returned per charge lowered to 12, from 15. Mana returned stays the same

Mana Potion

  • Fixed a typo

Ghost Marchers

  • Casting a spell or using an item no longer dispels the Phased effect
  • Phased buff improved to 12% (from 10%)

Nullfire Blade

  • Damage from the mana burned changed to 100%, from 80%

Power Supply

  • Recipe cost changed to 290 from 203

Puzzlebox

  • Recipe cost increased by 100
  • Melee Minion will now return the proper damage on death (200,400,600 True damage)
  • Added a proper name to the Haste Aura for Ranged Minion

Restoration Stone

  • Now refreshes all items except other Restoration Stones and Shrunken Head

Tablet of Command

  • Fixed it from leaving behind an invisible gadget that can block creep spawns

Heroes (42)

  • Yes... 42. The answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything lies in the number of heroes we are changing. Think about it...

Accursed

  • Range of Shield lowered to 400
  • Shield will no longer dispel stuns
  • Range of Cauterize increased to 750

Andromeda

  • Aurora debuff duration increased from 15 to 20s

Arachna

  • Spider will no longer spawn if she dies while it is in midair

Armadon

  • Spine Burst debuff increased from 10s to 13s
  • Armordillo's Spine Burst damage point reduced from 250 to 200

Behemoth

  • Fissure no longer freaks out when you target yourself

Blacksmith

  • Added mushroom cloud explosion for when a 4x Multicast goes off
  • +2 Base Intelligence
  • +0.2 Intelligence Gain

Corrupted Disciple

  • Base strength lowered from 21 to 19
  • Movespeed lowered by 5
  • Corrupted Conduit now grants vision around the target (800 AOE) as long as they stay in range/is draining damage
  • Fixed Electric Tide from not doing damage on the return if killed while it is active

Deadwood

  • Armor reduction from 2,3,4,5 to 1,2,3,4 when in Rotten Grasp
  • Very short cast time on Rotten Grasp so an animation plays
  • Initial slow from throwing a Log reduced to 60% (from 80%)
  • Deadwood's Log is now consumed when the throw is blocked by Nullstone
  • Deadwood can no longer throw a Log at Couriers
  • Willowmaker can no longer target the ground

Defiler

  • Fixed bug allowing players to control the spirits of Unholy Expulsion

Demented Shaman

  • Fixed Storm Cloud to properly highlight just heroes in the targeting circle
  • Fixed Storm Cloud to properly gain a radius increase with staff of the master

Devourer

  • Hook range is now the same across all levels (1100)
  • Hook now returns to the devourer if he moves (Think Maliken's Sword)
  • Hook can now only drag a unit a max of 1440 units

Engineer

  • Cooldown of The Keg increased to 14s base
  • Shield will now properly dispels buffs when someone leaves the area (It was dispelling debuffs before, which was incorrect)
  • Tinker reworked
    Quote:
    Passive:
    Decrease cooldown and manacost of The Keg by -7/14/21/28%

Active:
Range: 450
Mana Cost: 25
Cooldown: 15.0 Seconds
Duration: 15.0 Seconds
No longer channeling

Towers
+/- 10/20/30/40 Attack Speed
+/- 3/5/7/9 Armor

Catapults
+/- 10/20/30/40 Attack Speed
+/- 20/40/60/80% damage

  • 66% damage taken for allies
    Blows up enemy catapults at end of the debuff if they are still alive

Steam Turret

  • 10/20/30/40 Damage

Forsaken Archer

  • Base Agility lowered by 1
  • Attack projectile speed slowed down from 1200 to 1050
  • Fixed Split Fire so it reduces damage correctly
  • DoT from Skeletons lowered to 4/8/12/16
  • Piercing Arrows has the damage it does reduced based on the targets it hits. 10% per target in the line

Glacius

  • Ice Imprisonment can now be cast on allies, immobilizing them but reducing all damage they take by 20,40,60,80% for the duration

Hammerstorm

  • Galvanize cast time removed

Hellbringer

  • Fixed the hilarious tooltip bug (Unholy Shackles was named Unholy Sfles)
  • 10,20,30,40% on the health from Life Void
  • Boil now 'chains' to 1,2,3,4 nearby targets (so 2,3,4,5 total hit by it) and applies the boil to all of them instantly. Numbers stay the same
  • Fixed a bug that was causing Boil, when refreshed and re-cast on a target that already had the debuff, to continue to scale up its damage over the renewed length of the debuff. Instead, after the DoT ticks for 80 damage it will reset back to 10 damage and start increasing again

Jeraziah

  • Added the cast time back on Sol's Blessing (.5 seconds)

Kraken

  • No longer runs in place after charging (but he did look hilarious)

Legionnaire

  • Decapitate cast point lowered from 330 to 300

Madman

  • Stalk cooldown +1s at all levels
  • Invulnerability from Barrel Roll removed

Magebane

  • Flash cooldown now at 12/10/8/6 (+1 second at levels 2,3,4)

Magmus

  • Invulnerability from Lava Surge removed

Moon Queen

  • +2 Base Strength
  • +0.2 Strength Gain
  • +2 base int
  • +5 base damage
  • Moon Finale no longer requires points in Moon Beam
  • Multi-Strike is now a toggle ability that changes between bouncing to all units or just heroes

Night Hound

  • When in his own Smoke Bomb, the Night Hound is ignored by creeps and towers
  • Night Hound cannot attack towers while in his own Smoke Bomb

Nymphora

  • Fixed her correctly having effects bones (oops...)
  • Increased base strength by 2
  • Base damage changed from 38-49 to 45-52
  • Cast range of Pod increased to 750
  • Nymphora's Zeal now returns to her as she runs (Think Maliken's Sword)
  • She gains charges for attackspeed/movespeed as Nymphora's Zeal hits enemies, not on it's death
  • Grace of the Nymph now restores the mana over 4 seconds instead of instantly. Mana return dispels on damage

Ophelia

  • Level 4 Command now grants controlled units 4 Magic Armor

Pandamonium

  • New death effect
  • .1 cast time added to Cannonball (.3 total). Flight time reduced to compensate
  • Cooldown of Face Smash changed to 120,100,80

Pebbles

  • Fixed Stalagmites duration to be 2 seconds instead of 1.75

Plague Rider

  • Fixed a typo with his tooltip for Extinguish

Predator

  • Fixed a bug that was causing him to kill people while under the effects of Puppet Show

Puppetmaster

  • Whiplash damage increase lowered to 5/10/15/20%

Rampage

  • Stampede cooldown to 25s (from 40s)
  • Favor of Sol cooldown to 60s (from 75s)
  • Fixed order queue being cleared by a Horned Strike

Sand Wraith

  • Dissipate damage changed to Magic damage (from True)

Scout

  • Fixed toggling off Vanish giving charges to Mana Battery

Slither

  • Attack Range increased by 50
  • Anyone under the effects of the Toxicity have health regen disabled (40,60,80,100% health regen reduction)
  • Runes of the Blight changed to "healing" so that the Toxicity does not disable them
  • Poison Spray increased cast and effect range by 200, radius stays the same
  • Toxin Wards can now be laid in a 'burst' style with a long cooldown. (Think Panda's Flurry but with laying 3 wards in a short time)
  • Wards now have collision and slow poison (10%) again
  • Poison Burst is now un-removable
  • Now gains 3 seconds of clearvision around himself when using Poison Burst

Soulstealer

  • Soul Burst debuff increased from 2 seconds to 5 seconds

Swiftblade

  • Reduced Blade Frenzy cooldown from 30 to 30/28/26/24
  • Swiftblade is no longer disarmed while spinning at level 4 of Blade Frenzy
  • This includes attacking anything like heroes and units while spinning
  • Blade Frenzy now dispels all buffs and debuffs on start
  • When Blade Frenzy is active at level 4, Swiftblade has -55 Attackspeed
  • Swiftblade has unitwalking when using Swift Slashes so he doesn't block people

Thunderbringer

  • Attack animation impact point from 633 to 500

Torturer

  • Movement speed increased by 5
  • Agonizing Bonds now pulls anyone hit by the chains towards the target of the chains, even while the target moves
  • Impalement will no longer hit gadgets or semi-pets

Voodoo

  • +1 base armor

Witch Slayer

  • Graveyard can now target allied units
  • Fixed a typo in his story

Wretched Hag

  • Sonar Scream now hits invisible units and units in the fog
  • +5 base int, base damage stays the same [/spoiler]

no me tocan al warbeast ^^ y el devourer a lvl bajo va a ser la risa jugar con el

PHOBOS

And nerfeao a to kiski xDDDDDD.

Ostia lo del devourer no puede ser...... Es una burrada ahora el poder corregir el gancho.

Zendel

Sand Wraith

  • Dissipate damage changed to Magic damage (from True)

Venga hombre, encima de que la habilidad por si sola no hace mucho (a menos que tengas una barbed, y esta la han nerfeado) ahora le ponen magic armor para poder asi reducirse.

No estoy para nada de acuerdo en este cambio, sera porque es mi heroe preferido XD

D

Hoy o mañana saco la noticia para el torneo 1on1 que se llamara Championship Gaming Spain - Heroes of Newerth 1on1, si es lo que se me ha ocurrido xDD

POR CIERTO APUNTAROS A LAS LADDERS Y 5ON5 DE LA WINTER!!

Nyaca

Eo nose que pasa k no me deja entrar T-T me dice k no intriduzco una cuenta correcta, pero ayer podia jugar perfectamente... vosotros podeis jugar?

BreadFace

Nop, yo actualizo y al ir a iniciar el juego se me queda en negro, ni pantalla de inicio ni nada

Kaneas

Nuevo parche, de la versión

1.62 a la 1.64 :
B

si te molestaras en leer el post verias q ya esta puesto mas arriba...

B

Parece que han echo bastantes cambios, habra que ver como afectan al juego antes de kejarse...

En cuanto al psr yo tampoco me fio mucho, me fio mas del k:d y las assistencias.

Alguien ha probado el sistema de replays?

Kaneas

#3921 No se si lo editarás pero yo no veo en ningun lugar que digas: NUEVO PARCHE ni la versión ni nada... perdoname por no leerme todos y cada uno de los spoilers sin titulo que poneis... -_-

PD: A mi cambios buenos que me gustan:

Madman un pequeño nerf por fin.

Slither un buff bastante guapo.

Bufo a las ghost, lo que está bien.

Nerf a la barbed armor (Este no me gusta, pero es importante tambien)

Bufo al devourer en los primeros niveles lo que estará guapo.

Bufo al casteo del Galvanize que casi nunca se usaba en persecuciones por el tiempo de casteo.

Bufo a la moonqueen (aunque lo de cambiar el ataque multiple entre creeps y heroes me parece chorrada)

Nerf al Puppet (tambien necesario pero no tanto como al madman)

Buff al rampage, por fin no tardas 1000 años esperando a los CD's.

Buff a la wretched hag, bastante bien para pelear contra invis.

Buff al torturer que no lo he probado pero tiene pinta de estar guapete.

Y un nerf al Sand wraith curioso :)

Saludos!!

RubaPowa

Witch Slayer

  • Graveyard can now target allied units

HOLA?!Lo entendi mal o ahora el stun tmb afectara a aliados ? :S

kOnOrZ

No, simplemente puedes lanzarlo haciendo click sobre un aliado (antes si hacías click sobre un aliado no lo casteaba), al aliado no le hace nada.

RubaPowa

A lol thx tio XDD

Nunca lo utilizaba targeteando a enemigos , unicamente lo hacia clicando en la direccion que lo queria . Que mal rato XD

_

#3903 a mi me a costado solo 13 partidas llegar a 1600, comensando de 1500 XD
#3910 pillate en ap el blood hunter y gana tu solo las partidas como hago yo. ( ve siempre por medio ) aunque si juegas EM mejor aun para ti , yo no juego EM con mi nueva cuenta
#3911 No posiblemente hagan resets , si nos que ya lo han dicho , que habra reset de stats cuando salga el juego oficial

MrPaytoN

Es que a esos niveles(1500-1600) la gente contra la que juegas prácticamente te la puedes solear con un carry medianamente feedeado xD. La cantidad de mancos que hay con 1700 de PSR y encima es que me tocan todos en mi team xDDDDDDD

danao

cagada lo de la barbed, no lo entiendo, que la bajen el precio...

y lo del helm of black legion igual, un sinsentido absoluto

BreadFace

el swiftblade ahora mismo se pasa xddddd

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