pero tios... porqe les dais el partido.. qe mas dará qe les dejen algo mas de tiempo si han estao los 4 en suecia xD. Si bien qe se hubieran apañado ellos para jugarlo antes, o si no, EN TODO CASO ganais vosotros...pero darles el partido!? 
((((((( como mola vivir del nombre! voy a robar uno ya mismo! uNkind qe como no juega, voy a ser yo XD
Lo pongo en inglés, no me apetece nada traducirlo todo... Es inglés muy básico, pienso que todo el mundo puede llegar a entenderlo...
En esencia dice... Desde el día 13 de Noviembre, que había que jugar el partido contra fnatic... Pues usamos WC el día 13, y a partir de ahí se han ido proponiendo días para jugar, nosotros hemos propuesto mogollón de días y ellos no han querido/podido. El admin desde el inicio de la protesta dejó clarísimo que el último día para jugar era el 29 de Noviembre. El 29 de Noviembre no se había jugado el partido por lo que se cerró la protesta y se nos dió el partido por ganado. Pasadas 12 horas de haber sacado los playoffs donde nosotros aparecíamos, reabren el partido y deciden que les dan una semana más para jugar a ellos especialmente (Del grupo A, fnatic ha sido el unico que equipo que SOLO JUGÓ UN PARTIDO, tanto VIRUS como excello como MDMa jugaron 2)... En fin, aquí os lo dejo, si teneis dudas, preguntad:
Every story has a start and this is it:
The first date for the match was Thursday 13 November.
I recieve an SMS from one of my teammates telling me that he wont be able to play because of work. As soon as i recieve the message i open a query to spartie, here its what we talked:
[ 08:21:17 ] [ fnaticspartie ] ye
[ 08:21:18 ] [ fnaticspartie ] whats up
[ 08:28:51 ] [ SuPRiMo ] hi
[ 08:28:59 ] [ SuPRiMo ] we've to use WC for today fnaticspartie
[ 08:34:38 ] [ fnaticspartie ]
[ 08:48:50 ] [ SuPRiMo ] admins says that we've to scheudle it asap
[ 08:48:54 ] [ SuPRiMo ] can we now spartie :?
[ 08:49:05 ] [ SuPRiMo ] what about Monday / Tuesday @ 21:30 next week?
[ 09:55:35 ] [ fnaticspartie ] dunnpo
[ 10:08:29 ] [ fnaticspartie ] yes tuesday
[ 10:08:32 ] [ fnaticspartie ] looks fine i guess
[ 10:08:42 ] [ fnaticspartie ] but wait for daves answer
[ 10:08:42 ] [ fnaticspartie ] 
[ 10:09:18 ] [ SuPRiMo ] talking to deus too
[ 10:09:19 ] [ SuPRiMo ] :>
[ 10:09:31 ] [ fnaticspartie ] 
[ 10:09:33 ] [ fnaticspartie ] = dave
[ 10:09:33 ] [ fnaticspartie ] 
)
And here what has been talked to fnatic/Deus the same day:
[ 10:05:26 ] [ SuPRiMo ] fnaticdeus
[ 10:05:30 ] [ fnaticdeus ] yes
[ 10:05:35 ] [ SuPRiMo ] who i've to talk to to scheudle the match?
[ 10:05:36 ] [ SuPRiMo ] im ChOU
[ 10:05:38 ] [ SuPRiMo ] CL of MDMa
[ 10:05:39 ] [ SuPRiMo ]
[ 10:06:14 ] [ fnaticdeus ] ok
[ 10:06:16 ] [ fnaticdeus ] well
[ 10:06:28 ] [ fnaticdeus ] can't we do next thursday or soemthing ?
[ 10:06:39 ] [ SuPRiMo ] next thursday its the final group phase match
[ 10:06:40 ] [ SuPRiMo ] of EMS
[ 10:06:42 ] [ SuPRiMo ] u play xlo !
[ 10:06:51 ] [ fnaticdeus ] we could play you b4 that ?
[ 10:07:01 ] [ SuPRiMo ] maybe after, not before
[ 10:07:01 ] [ SuPRiMo ] :<
[ 10:07:12 ] [ fnaticdeus ] kk
[ 10:07:13 ] [ fnaticdeus ] erm
[ 10:07:18 ] [ fnaticdeus ] maybe tuesday?
[ 10:07:23 ] [ SuPRiMo ] tuesday is OK
[ 10:07:41 ] [ SuPRiMo ] 21:30 ?
[ 10:07:54 ] [ fnaticdeus ] let me ask my team
[ 10:09:17 ] [ fnaticdeus ] need to wait for em
[ 10:09:19 ] [ fnaticdeus ] to get back to me
[ 10:09:25 ] [ SuPRiMo ] no problem
[ 10:14:13 ] [ fnaticdeus ] we can't do tuesday
[ 10:14:15 ] [ fnaticdeus ] stermy is away
[ 10:17:25 ] [ fnaticdeus ] so hard to sort grrr
[ 10:17:29 ] [ fnaticdeus ] coz everyone is traveling
[ 10:17:32 ] [ fnaticdeus ] they all play 1v1 tourneys
[ 10:17:36 ] [ fnaticdeus ] or out or im working
[ 10:18:07 ] [ fnaticdeus ] we could do
[ 10:18:14 ] [ fnaticdeus ] 9pm cet on sunday ?
[ 10:25:43 ] [ SuPRiMo ] sunday its the final IEM qualifier
[ 10:25:43 ] [ SuPRiMo ] :S
[ 10:26:22 ] [ SuPRiMo ] Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday is OK for us from 21:30 CET in advance
[ 10:26:35 ] [ SuPRiMo ] on Thursday it should be after the match against VIRUS
[ 10:30:48 ] [ fnaticdeus ] we can't do monday/tue/wed
[ 10:30:54 ] [ fnaticdeus ] so
[ 10:31:03 ] [ fnaticdeus ] sunday or thursday i guess
[ 10:31:53 ] [ SuPRiMo ] Thursday after our match vs virus and urs vs xlo?
[ 11:32:05 ] [ fnaticdeus ] guess so
Thats it, the day we used WC i did my best to scheudle the match, and as u can see with this conversation the new date wasnt closed because we ended with a "guess so". Anyway after this conversation i posted @ match:
"So... After the talk with Deus, seems u cannot play today nor tomorrow neither Wednesday.
So, for us there's no problem to play on Thursday after our match vs Virus.
If u didnt change the date, u've to play vs xlo on Thursday also so, when u and us finish our matches, we can play this one "
Then, 2 days after my message @ match, deus contacted me, here its what we talked:
Session Start: Wed Nov 18 18:13:34 2009
[ 06:13:34 ] [ fnaticdeus ] yo
[ 06:16:22 ] [ SuPRiMo`aFK ] hiya fnaticdeus
[ 06:16:26 ] [ fnaticdeus ] hey man
[ 06:16:30 ] [ fnaticdeus ] we can't make thursday now
[ 06:16:40 ] [ SuPRiMo ] i know, xou told me
[ 06:16:49 ] [ fnaticdeus ] is there another day u can make or ?
[ 06:17:23 ] [ SuPRiMo ] I think Sunday / Monday / Tuesday
[ 06:17:45 ] [ fnaticdeus ] ok
[ 06:17:48 ] [ fnaticdeus ] 2secs
[ 06:17:50 ] [ SuPRiMo ] sure
[ 06:17:54 ] [ fnaticdeus ] what time on tuesday ?
[ 06:17:59 ] [ fnaticdeus ] it can be early or ?
[ 06:18:10 ] [ SuPRiMo ] from 21:00
[ 06:18:20 ] [ SuPRiMo ] CET
[ 06:18:22 ] [ fnaticdeus ] ok
[ 06:18:58 ] [ SuPRiMo ] so, Tuesday @ 21:00 CET :?
[ 06:19:11 ] [ fnaticdeus ] its 2 late just asked stermy
[ 06:19:22 ] [ fnaticdeus ] <@stermy> and tuesd night I can if its like
[ 06:19:26 ] [ fnaticdeus ] <@stermy> at 6pm
[ 06:19:39 ] [ SuPRiMo ] 2 of us are working @ 6pm
[ 06:19:40 ] [ SuPRiMo ]
[ 06:19:45 ] [ fnaticdeus ] ok
[ 06:24:56 ] [ SuPRiMo ] we can play the whole next week (from Sunday to Sunday, except friday & saturday ofc) from 21:00
[ 06:25:04 ] [ SuPRiMo ] well, this Sunday we can play earlier if its necessary
[ 06:49:29 ] [ fnaticdeus ] ok
[ 06:49:34 ] [ fnaticdeus ] il let u know asap
[ 06:49:36 ] [ fnaticdeus ] gonna go out now
[ 07:02:40 ] [ SuPRiMo ] ok
[ 07:02:41 ] [ SuPRiMo ] thx
And that's it, no more IRC conversations... After that talks, nothing happened, nobody from fnatic contacted me so, on November 23rd i posted another message @ match:
"We can play almost everyday from this week excepto on Wednesday (GameON), Friday, Saturday & Sunday.
Rest of Days (Monday, Tuesday, Thursday) we can play from 21:30 in advance."
No news again and i posted the next day other message @ match:
"Well, still no news...
Today finally we cannot play... OK for us tomorrow (Even with GameON, we're OK to play from 21:30 CET in advance) and on Thursday..."
All of these its totally true, meanwhile this was happening everyday i was being asked by xou about the match, and everyday was the same answer, "No news from them". One day xou went to fnatic channel to hurry fnatic, and THEN they started to do something.
On 24th the protest was opened so u can read the rest @ the protest...
The thing is that, xlo, VIRUS and MDMa played AT LEAST 2 matches from group stage, fnatic ONLY PLAYED ONE and as u can read above this, we did enough to scheudle the match. If the first admin decission was very clear:
"DEADLINE FOR GROUP STAGE IS NOVEMBER 29"
Why the hell, a clan who ONLY PLAYED ONE MATCH diserves another week to play the rest of their matches? Im really sorry about the dreamhack week but BEFORE DREAMHACK we COULD PLAY THE MATCH and nothing near a final date was given...
As we do not agree the way this has been treated, we're sorry but we wont play this game.
Give default win to fnatic.
No worries, Junior, u did well as admin. Your work is really apreciated. Thank you.
For us is enough to know we've the reason, we prefer not to be @ playoffs than being messed up.
El MLA de la sección europea de Quake Live (xou) está completamente de acuerdo con nosotros y ha hecho lo posible para que les diesen la patada a fnatic (que sería lo justo) pero... Hay gente más arriba que él en este tema, precisamente los mismos que reabrieron el partido después de que el admin cerrase la protesta, la fase de grupos y nos incluyese a nosotros en los playoffs...
Que sí, que está feo ganar en los despachos, y que nosotros sabemos perfectamente que nos hubiesen dado un palizón precioso, pero una vez ves que te están vacilando, toca las pelotas, y lo único que defendemos es lo justo, porque llega a ser otro clan piltrafa, o bien, que las cosas hubiesen sido al revés, y la patada en el culo que nos dan vaya... Pero "EY" es fnatic...
que triste, la verdad q me parece tan askeroso el tema. Como son fnatic no pasa nada???podian haber dixo "mira q no contamos para nada con vuestra opinion ponemos el partido cuando le salga de los cojones a los megamega pros, les vaya bien... y a vosotros q os den por el culo" la verdad q es una pena chou pero weno esto es normal van a mirar siempre por el q mas fama puede dejar al torneo.
